Curse

Nostagia · Aug 15, 2006, 09:05 PM // 21:05

Lately a new trick done by some of the kurzicks seems to be that they join luxon guilds as guests and when the get into Alliance battles they instantly quite the game before any fighting starts. I can't be completely sure of this accusation but one of the players in the many alliance battles we had been in said that he used to be a Kurzick and swithced to Luxon because they were doing this. If this is true I think that someone should fix this and make it so that Kurzicks or Luxons cannot be guests in someone else guild that is the opposition of their clan. I think this would be a fair solution.

Zinger314 · Aug 15, 2006, 09:08 PM // 21:08

It's definately true.

However, does it make a difference, really? Alliance Battles and the line mean nothing...

KamikazeChicken · Aug 15, 2006, 09:09 PM // 21:09

I see more Luxons doing this to Kurzicks, than Kurzicks doing this to Luxons, in all honesty. >.>

LumpOfCole · Aug 15, 2006, 09:10 PM // 21:10

This has been true for both sides for a long time.

Crimso · Aug 15, 2006, 10:16 PM // 22:16

today a group of 4 kurzicks had characters with probably 55 hp and just ran straight into the luxons and got killed till the luxons were at 500 points

RinkXing · Aug 15, 2006, 10:16 PM // 22:16

Those dastardly swines.

Alias_X · Aug 15, 2006, 10:37 PM // 22:37

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Originally Posted by KamikazeChicken

I see more Luxons doing this to Kurzicks, than Kurzicks doing this to Luxons, in all honesty. >.>

Lets not get into that

ChildeOfMalkav · Aug 15, 2006, 10:40 PM // 22:40

Does it really matter which side is doing this more to the other side? Either way it's idiotic and childish. I dont even know why people bother doing that since it's a waste of time. Quite sad really.

unholy guardian · Aug 15, 2006, 10:42 PM // 22:42

*cough* eh yeah i checked out if you could do that today, would work well if i had a 55 necro... but i doubt i would do that, guild might kick me for being mean. Annyway, both sides do it.

you know really they could simply not let you fight... i mean you are a kurzick/luxon, why would they let you fight. I mean armies don't let non-citzins fight in the front lines...

Align · Aug 15, 2006, 11:21 PM // 23:21

Not like 12v12 wasn't mostly luck already...

Arkantos · Aug 15, 2006, 11:27 PM // 23:27

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Originally Posted by Align

Not like 12v12 wasn't mostly luck already...

LOL, I have to agree. Half the time I'm with other people that cant organise
4-4-4. The knowledge of lots of ABers is little to nothing.

Anyways, I actually saw people advertising this today. "2/4 sabbatoge group looking for more to start ab in luxon and quit". Sabbatoge? no. Cheap? Yes. But seriously, the alliance line means nothing. And your suggestion wouldnt help, you can just leave your guild, join a luxon, then join back.

KamikazeChicken · Aug 16, 2006, 12:15 AM // 00:15

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Originally Posted by Alias_X

Lets not get into that

There's nothing to get into. Look at the damned moral chart.

MelechRic · Aug 16, 2006, 12:40 AM // 00:40

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Originally Posted by KamikazeChicken

There's nothing to get into. Look at the damned moral chart.

No, there is something to get into. Making accusations that aren't verafiable is pointless. Saying one side does it more than another is in now way constructive and leads to flaming. However, the OP's post is not constructive either.

Basically, both sides are probably doing it and neither is more culpable than the other.

Most of the finger pointing going on around here is due to sour grapes from the hugh Kurzick push into Luxon territory. That kind of thing brings out the worst in a lot of people which is quite evident from the sabotage groups and other junk going on in AB.

sky the unstopable · Aug 16, 2006, 12:50 AM // 00:50

If the line means nothing to you or if it means the world this is still unbelivibly childish. I hapen to enjoy the idea of some friendly compitition. It annoys the hell out of me when ppl on both sides yell back and forth at each other call one another noobs and such. This is just the next step step in that direction.

yesitsrob · Aug 16, 2006, 12:53 AM // 00:53

to be honest, it's all completely random. and the line means little to nothing. It's largely a massive case of luck. And then there's all this talk about "kurzicks rock the luxons" when really... it's alliance battles, they're terrible.

Them people killing themselves is kind of similar to the jerks you get in random arenas that blood is power themselves to death.

With the kurzick line moving so far into the luxon side, I think it's pretty safe to assume that there probably has been a fair bit of "cheating" going on, or a lot of luck...

I think we just have to realize that "random" pvp is not something to be taken seriously. if you can even call ab's pvp

Lawnmower · Aug 16, 2006, 12:56 AM // 00:56

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

It's definately true.

However, does it make a difference, really? Alliance Battles and the line mean nothing...

this is the key... what does the matter??

there needs to be much more apparent ways to feel and see which side is winning and which is losing. people dont care because like... WTF?

KamikazeChicken · Aug 16, 2006, 01:04 AM // 01:04

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Originally Posted by MelechRic

Basically, both sides are probably doing it and neither is more culpable than the other.

1. Look at the moral chart after/during every AB. You'll start seeing trends.
2. Both sides are doing it, there's no probably about it.

It's just been my experience that Kurzicks have a higher drop rate at the very start, and Luxons seem to ragequit more often. I'm probably one of the few people who bother to look at the moral chart, so it really doesn't matter. Maybe I'll start documenting moral charts just to make an entirely pointless thread that's deliberately designed to erupt into a flame fest, but I likely won't because I don't give a damn about any of it. >.>

sky the unstopable · Aug 16, 2006, 01:05 AM // 01:05

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Originally Posted by Lawnmower

this is the key... what does the matter??

there needs to be much more apparent ways to feel and see which side is winning and which is losing. people dont care because like... WTF?

by this same logic what dose this game matter? should A-Net have to show up at your door everytime you compleat a quest and give you five bucks?

Curse You · Aug 16, 2006, 01:23 AM // 01:23

Ok, fresh from some victories against Kurzicks, in a battle highly stacked in my favor...

You people have no idea how to debate do you? You just pick a point and yell it at everyone else contiously, with no good supporting comments.

Sure the Alliance lines may seem pointless to some, but last time I checked, when an outpost is taken, all the NPCs (excluding henchmen) will refuse to help poeple allied with the other side. Now if someone wants to clear their inventory, they have to map travel to a secure outpost just to sell stuff.

Now I'm betting it's safe to assume that MOST (not all) of the people who feel the line means nothing are in Kurzick Alliances. As such, they are never faced with this issue, because the line is usually going in and out of the Jade Sea, an area many of them have never even been to. (note: this is not a Kurzick flame, it is an observation)

Now about the change, personally I think it would be a good start, at least then they would have to leave their guild (guild leaders would most likely not do this). That might eliminate about 75% of the people doing this. Also, if you want faction from the other side; GO TO FORT ASPENWOOD OR JADE QUARRY.

Now, having given actual arguments (and counter arguments), I shall retreat into my snow cave (I AM a ninja/pirate penguin bent on taking over the world), and do some more alliance battles.

Shuuda · Aug 16, 2006, 03:06 PM // 15:06

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Originally Posted by ChildeOfMalkav

Does it really matter which side is doing this more to the other side? Either way it's idiotic and childish. I dont even know why people bother doing that since it's a waste of time. Quite sad really.

Correct! When will u morons realise that it's this kind of vile play that sucks the fun out of it. It's a game, winning isn't important, the fun is.